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    Tom Scott

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    4 minutes remaining. Then 15 seconds. Then 5 hours. Why can't computers just tell you how long something's going to take? • MORE BASICS: uzwindow.info/project/PL96C35uN7xGLLeET0dOWaKHkAlPsrkcha.html
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Tom Scott
Tom Scott

I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...

Oy oldin
Culiynl
Culiynl

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20 kun oldin
RanMind YT
RanMind YT

why do you private your videos before you upload them

20 kun oldin
Michael Conroy
Michael Conroy

How did you put in the time estimate of this video in the script as you were recoring? I slowed down the video speed to .25 but can't see where you may have stitched two takes together.

26 kun oldin
NoobKing
NoobKing

...

29 kun oldin
PrxjectMeme
PrxjectMeme

Why does my phone tell me that this comment was posted before the video was?

Oy oldin
szubert - max
szubert - max

1:57 maybe 4 different loading bars? For each process?

6 soat oldin
Philippe Futureboy
Philippe Futureboy

I didn’t expect that Tom Scott.exe could be rebooted. The more you know 🌟

14 soat oldin
theawesomness07
theawesomness07

Among Us downloading task be like: Estimated time: 4 days *2 seconds later* Estimated time: 6 seconds

17 soat oldin
Christoph Southwell
Christoph Southwell

Gosh Tom, call me out why don't you!

Kun oldin
ike
ike

I like to combine the speed in rate of transfer or time remaining while also having my harddrive light & CPU task manager to see which is bottle-necking at what point. This is a form of entertainment I guess

Kun oldin
flex
flex

I love the bars that stop at 100% for 10 minutes or so

2 kun oldin
Paulo Lukeny
Paulo Lukeny

What is this golden piece of chanel that just dropped on my recommendations, SUBBED!

3 kun oldin
Windows 10X
Windows 10X

It’s actually placebo its jus randomly stoping at random intervals and thats why it stops at 99% cuz it’s actually at 70% or 50% or maybe even 30%

3 kun oldin
SuperPlayer56 Gaming
SuperPlayer56 Gaming

Things to do do, to make progress bar faster: Buy an ssd Upgrade ram (and probably buy more ram than you have on a computer) Buy better proccesor Buy better router/modem and get faster internet Buy faster hdd(s) Install linux Congratulations!!! Your game/program now loads/downloads/installs faster!

3 kun oldin
dick harambe
dick harambe

Working on updates 2% complete 1 hour later Working on updates 10% complete Working on updates 100% complete

3 kun oldin
Ruelle Heroux
Ruelle Heroux

Can i express how perfectly aligned the timer is in video to the YouTube timer?

4 kun oldin
ProHolmes
ProHolmes

I just like windows' there are 7 years left for finish copying your files. While showing me the speed and amount of data left, which definitely won't be 7 years if i divide data amount by speed.

4 kun oldin
shmo247
shmo247

Modern warfare updates: 1%.......2%.........not enough storage delete 148gb of data

4 kun oldin
Thot Slayer 420
Thot Slayer 420

what about a 2D progress block, width for data (so maybe mb or gb) and height for file count, never seen one, just thought of it

5 kun oldin
kalle anka
kalle anka

Best solution would be to put a title to every segemt of the progress bar. Anyone who watches porn on the hub will have found this out. If you dont care about foreplay you know exactly on te second to skip to, to skip that part. So for a progress bar for a install. Just title the segement so that we know what part the computer is working on and we know what we might think of upgrading

5 kun oldin
RamennBowls
RamennBowls

"The most important job is to reassure that yes, things are happening, progress it being made" That moment when the progress bar is stuck at 99% for about 28 minutes...

5 kun oldin
Reese606
Reese606

The only accurate progress bar is the 3DS one And no, not the blue one The one when your digitally downloading a game off of the eShop

7 kun oldin
Ask Master
Ask Master

100% ... Restarting... 30% .... ... .. 58% ............... 79% ................ 100% .................................................................... Aaaaand it crashed

7 kun oldin
Adam Cogley
Adam Cogley

Steam

7 kun oldin
gunship sequel budyboy
gunship sequel budyboy

you should create a program that changes the line on the video

7 kun oldin
YaBoy •
YaBoy •

Putting my finger over the progress bar to see if its moving

7 kun oldin
Vex989
Vex989

Steam installing a game be like: 1 minute left -- 2 hours left -- 5 days left -- 6 minutes left

7 kun oldin
agustinbs
agustinbs

Are you reporting from 1998?

9 kun oldin
DG Secret
DG Secret

Tom Scott : Why Progress Bars Don't Move Smoothly Me : Wondering why the progress bar on the title doesn't move

9 kun oldin
Peto
Peto

0:06 WAS THAT A LEGO RACER 2 LOADING BAR ??????

9 kun oldin
KoGa
KoGa

"Why can't computers just tell me how long something is going to take?" Because progress bars don't show you time... they show (suprise!) progress.

9 kun oldin
Rory M
Rory M

Shout out to those 99 years that I was told it was gonna take for my game to open when I was 8.

10 kun oldin
P Church
P Church

This is why I leave and do something else when I’m downloading something. If it takes 5 minutes or 2 hours I’ll have something nice to come back to once I remember

10 kun oldin
GigaGame
GigaGame

who needs a progress bar when u have a gaming fridge that can download anything almost instantaneously

10 kun oldin
YY YELLOW
YY YELLOW

Why this guy is soo much underrated

10 kun oldin
karehaqt
karehaqt

Good old Microsoft Minutes

10 kun oldin
Deconimus
Deconimus

How was the halting problem not mentioned in this video?

11 kun oldin
KysterPSY
KysterPSY

Loved the Sopranos kinda ending.

11 kun oldin
Pat Smash
Pat Smash

My loading bar just goes backwards

11 kun oldin
Chane
Chane

looking at you STEAM

13 kun oldin
A Skellington
A Skellington

LOADING GEOMETRIES 62%

14 kun oldin
Yajihba
Yajihba

Someone tell computer making people to put this when turning on a computer after shutting it down

14 kun oldin
Lordlouckster
Lordlouckster

Solution: Have individual progress bars for each step. Step 1/4: 10% Step 1/4: 20% ... Step 1/4: 100% Step 2/4: 10% Step 2/4: 20% ... Step 4/4: 90% Step 4/4: Done!

14 kun oldin
Hasan A
Hasan A

The one thing I wish I could do when it came to downloading something is allocate as much resources to downloading as possible. I love that you can still Watch Netflix, have a conference call, and edit a video in Adobe After affects, while downloading somthing, but sometimes I just want to download something, walk away and have the computer just worry about downloading or moving the file.

15 kun oldin
Sideways
Sideways

This is the corollary to Windows 10 offering to kill any app that takes more than 15 seconds to do something - apparently Windows isn’t seeing a progress bar😅

15 kun oldin
Eeee
Eeee

Bar: 1% to 99% : 20 minutes Bar: 99% to 100% : *10 hours*

15 kun oldin
Viktória Vadon
Viktória Vadon

I agree, as long as the progress bar is moving (and not backwards!), I know something is happening!

15 kun oldin
Frog 4096
Frog 4096

3:42 Looking at you, Windows 10

16 kun oldin
Samson Kinyanjui
Samson Kinyanjui

/////// / / / / / / / / / / / / / 10more years ///////// / / / / / / / / / / / 30more seconds

16 kun oldin
Riley Carpenter
Riley Carpenter

Content

17 kun oldin
mozl83
mozl83

That's also why many programmers have gone the other way and just show "progress indicator" instead of progress bars. Like the spinning wheel on Windows. It just shows that the PC didn't freeze and is still working, but you don't have any indication on how long it's going to take. Also if "time" isn't a parameter itself then the progress bar can never be give you a proper "remaining time". A countdown is always accurate because the time itself is the parameter that makes it work. Filetransfer ist based on the files and not on the time, so it will finish when it is finished, not when a certain amount of seconds have passed (like the queue in the supermarket. Fewer people doesn't mean the line is faster. There are just fewer people in front of you.).

17 kun oldin
Cameron Figgins
Cameron Figgins

Minecraft’s progress bar be like: And I took that personally

17 kun oldin
Zari Hanssen
Zari Hanssen

Loading time estimates be like: 20 minutes 4 seconds 45 minutes 5 minutes 999999 hours

17 kun oldin
Butter of Sorrow
Butter of Sorrow

Personally I like loading screens that tell you what exactly they're doing, like most source and goldsource engine games. "Validating game resources." "Sending client info." That kind of thing.

17 kun oldin
French Comprehensible Input
French Comprehensible Input

100% done = 90% done *Adobe Premiere users* will understand 😂

18 kun oldin
Helio Gonzalez
Helio Gonzalez

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Silksong Date
Silksong Date

4:48 smh now you'll have to record everything from the start rippppp

18 kun oldin
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing

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pencilchat
pencilchat

my monitor froze during a download once, so i thought it took 4 hours to get a 20mb download done.

19 kun oldin
Zoltan
Zoltan

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19 kun oldin
Eugene Lo
Eugene Lo

Imagine the progress bar in the title is how long Tom Scott's life is

19 kun oldin
Cypress
Cypress

is this the guy who says “xnyopit”

19 kun oldin
fossar _
fossar _

Is it just me or was the audio an video out of sync (I'm assuming deliberately)? If so nice choice.

19 kun oldin
Tomáš Lipták
Tomáš Lipták

I think the best loading screens are when there are actually two (think winrar) one for the whole process and the other for individual processes. From there you can see that it is actually doing something.

19 kun oldin
youtubeusername
youtubeusername

Pov: you kept checking your scroll bar through out the video

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The cheese
The cheese

Me when I tilt my phone facing down and the progress bars start moving again.

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Pawit Ninnabodee
Pawit Ninnabodee

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RanMind YT
RanMind YT

What is the 1% that’s taking so long to load

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wozerD

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20 kun oldin
Leo Telles
Leo Telles

You look young and old at the same time. That's a real mistyr to me, you should make a video about it!

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AK Nephtali
AK Nephtali

The worst thing is when it goes to 99% immediately and then stays there for what feels like a millennium. Thank you for explaining this in your usual awesome way!

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SYS
SYS

A thing the program could do to resolve, or at least find a more smooth load, is by logging the time, taking the estimated time that it took, and telling you that number. If it was a game, it could show how long it had taken the last 10 times, (assuming you would've loaded it that many times), and let's say a file upload, it could track how long it would take for 100 files, and estimate the amount of time, that this would take because its 10x times larger, or half the size = it would be 10 times longer or ½ times faster.

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BlurryPirate
BlurryPirate

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Phill Wainewright
Phill Wainewright

Dropbox "Time Remaining" when uploading a video is a complete work of fiction.

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Stipe Poljak
Stipe Poljak

Intro music from the Chase?

20 kun oldin
HowDeeDoo
HowDeeDoo

Steam update estimation times. 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 18 minutes, 2 hours, 17 hours... 12 seconds.

21 kun oldin
whadup
whadup

I cant be the only one that was annoyed that the two progress bars didn't match perfectly 😁

21 kun oldin
Kebbo
Kebbo

coomrag

21 kun oldin
John Southfield
John Southfield

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Lambor_ghini
Lambor_ghini

Progress screens can lock up and fool you to wait forever but ultimately you have to reset the computer..

21 kun oldin
Bubba Games
Bubba Games

The video progress bar is half a second off

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Haydenex
Haydenex

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Zak Fallows
Zak Fallows

I have four letters for you: RTOS. A Real Time Operating System (RTOS) provides hard or soft guarantees of how long a program will take, in instruction cycles. Sometimes this is critically important, for instance if the machine is doing quantitative chemistry and it needs to error out if the reaction time wasn't very close to 90 seconds. It's fun stuff.

21 kun oldin
Cristian Martinez
Cristian Martinez

why a linguistic knows computing, that aint fair

22 kun oldin
Paul Potter
Paul Potter

Who else checked that the video progress bar was in sync?

22 kun oldin
jeremiaas15
jeremiaas15

What I'd like to know is, how is it possible that progress bars always show, even if for a split second, 100%. Surely, if that were truth, the next thing would pop up instead.

22 kun oldin
LRC
LRC

I love it when a simple download says "2 years remaining" or "∞ time remaining".

22 kun oldin
AsrithTechsys
AsrithTechsys

Are you anyway realated to Linus Torvalds?

22 kun oldin
TROVEN
TROVEN

Who else leave cursor at the edge of the progress bar to see if its actually moving?

22 kun oldin
Sara Olmstead
Sara Olmstead

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22 kun oldin
Thaer Razeq
Thaer Razeq

Always, stuck at the dreaded 99% or 100% more so than the previous 98% or 99% combined.

22 kun oldin
Craig Smith
Craig Smith

Large cache SSD and a modern high core CPU like Ryzen 9 or 10+ core i9. RIP, progress bar existence

22 kun oldin
Abhinav Dev
Abhinav Dev

When they do move smoothly It is the most satisfying thing in this world.

23 kun oldin
Simon T
Simon T

This is a repost?

23 kun oldin
Snowjix
Snowjix

3:42 Too real Tom..

23 kun oldin
HP Gummy
HP Gummy

I didn't need to know this

23 kun oldin
Ariel Zabihi
Ariel Zabihi

Do one on browser compilers and header data

23 kun oldin
DoubleDS9
DoubleDS9

Excellent! Thank you.

23 kun oldin
Cj Slime
Cj Slime

I can understand why they change but the lock at 99.9 percent complete is annoying

23 kun oldin
Phung Ngoc Quynh
Phung Ngoc Quynh

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23 kun oldin
Shakhzod Mukhammadiev
Shakhzod Mukhammadiev

*Good ol' floppy drives "3%.... 4%.... 98% DONE"*

23 kun oldin
Candy Vargas
Candy Vargas

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Dino Hall
Dino Hall

Am I supposed to know what this means?

21 kun oldin
Hayato Tenryuu
Hayato Tenryuu

Maybe Windows just decides to restart itself in order to install an update that I don't care about, and would actually rather I didn't have to have.

24 kun oldin
Brando Calrisian
Brando Calrisian

Beware the perfectly smooth progress bar, got it. Great advice, thanks, i had no idea about any of this!

24 kun oldin

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